"In
war there is no substitute for victory." "You
are remembered for the rules you break."
By BOB BARNEY- The Plain Truth
The words are that of General Douglas MacArthur, the American Caesar. When World War II broke out, the nation turned to this leader when it appeared that Japanese were going to take over the entire Pacific, including Hawaii and maybe even the Islands of Alaska. MacArthur, having no troops, no military support, and literally no backing from his president, because the truth was that FDR was more worried about Europe than he was about the war in the Pacific. Although MacArthur was forced to fight much of the war with very little help, he did not publicly condemn Pres. Roosevelt for being more concerned with the European battlefront then he was the Pacific battlefront. Instead, MacArthur is today known mainly by his actions in the Korean conflict under Pres. Truman. If MacArthur disagreed with the strategy of Franklin Roosevelt, it didn’t really show. He didn't in any way think that Franklin Roosevelt was trying to lose the war as he did concerning the Truman policies in Korea. When the Korean conflict rolled around, McArthur was faced with a president who no longer was willing to fight a war, but what he called a “ police action.”
MacArthur was forced to accept rules of engagement that until now seemed almost stupid beyond belief. The following quote from the general sums it up best concerning the orders from Washington that he was expected to obey. " I asked for the bridges across the Yaloo to be bombed, my request was denied, I asked for permission to pursue the enemy into their sanctuaries, that request was denied. I requested that we be allowed to bomb the war supporting factories in China, that request was denied! Do you know what they told me? The told me that.."You may bomb the Southern half of the bridge only! In all military history, no commander has ever received such an imbecilic order! In all my years of military experiance I have never been taught how to bomb half a bridge! This isn't war, it's half war! It is an immoral compromise with evil! The longer we continue this half hearted struggle, the more men we'll lose!"
Those few words from Mac Arthur should ring in our ears today. Our soldiers fighting wars in the far distant lands such as Afghanistan and Iraq, have been given orders which are truly a compromise with evil--- as we continue fighting half wars! It is the evil leadership from Washington that has caused so many of our brave soldiers to die needlessly on battlefields of Korea, Vietnam, and now in the Middle East.
Now we have another general being relieved of command, by another president, who seems to be more worried about the welfare of our enemies than the welfare of our soldiers. Again, MacArthur was so right when he said these words about military leaders given their allegiance to political presidents, that care nothing for this country, but only for their own personal gain. "That is a dangerous concept, that men of the armed forces owe their primary duty to these temporary occupants of the White House insted of the Country and the Constitution we are sworn to defend!" (Mac Arthur).
I know most think that civilian control over our military, which is the constitutional function of the presidency should include that generals and military leaders must agree with political policies instead of military strategies. In my personal estimation, it is better for a general to stand up against these temporary occupants of the White House and not resign, but be fired. I would much rather be fired, then quit and leave my soldiers behind whose welfare and safety I was entrusted to protect. "One cannot wage war under present conditions without the support of public opinion, which is tremendously molded by the press and other forms of propaganda," MacArthur said after his firing, “But once war is forced upon us, there is no other alternative than to apply every available means to bring it to a swift end. War's very object is victory, not prolonged indecision. In war there can be no substitute for victory.”
He went on to say, “Men since the beginning of time have sought peace. …..The utter destructiveness of war now blocks out, this alternative. We have had our last chance. If we will not devise some greater and more equitable system, Armageddon will be at our door.”
My friends, Armageddon is at our door, and we better wake up and understand that the decisions being made now by this nation will have worldwide consequences upon all the nations of the world. MacArthur called this policy “appeasement,” and he said that appeasement begets more appeasement, and as in blackmail-- violence becomes the only answer. The violence that I am talking about is WWIII, a war, when it comes will annihilate up to half of this world's population, as well as bring about the great tribulation, the antichrist, and the return of Christ.
The problem basically is theological and involves a spiritual recrudescence and improvement of human character that will synchronize with our almost matchless advances in science, art, literature and all the material and cultural developments of the past 2000 years. It must be of the spirit if we are to save the flesh.... These are not my words, but General Mac Arthur's!
Here are a few more:
This does not mean that you are war mongers. On the contrary, the soldier, above all other people, prays for peace, for he must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war. But always in our minds ring the ominous words of Plato: "Only the dead have seen the end of war."
It is part of the general pattern of misguided policy that our country is now geared to an arms economy which was bred in an artificially induced psychosis of war hysteria and nurtured upon an incessant propaganda of fear. While such an economy may produce a sense of seeming prosperity for the moment, it rests on an illusionary foundation of complete unreliability and renders among our political leaders almost a greater fear of peace than is their fear of war.
Speech of 1951, as quoted in The Twenty-year Revolution from Roosevelt to Eisenhower (1954) by Chesly Manly, p. 3, and Total Insecurity : The Myth Of American Omnipotence (2004) by Carol Brightman, p. 182
Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear -- kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor -- with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it by furnishing the exorbitant funds demanded. Yet, in retrospect, these disasters seem never to have happened, seem never to have been quite real.
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Firing a General? It's been done before, by another lousy president!
"In
war there is no substitute for victory." "You
are remembered for the rules you break."
By BOB BARNEY- The Plain Truth
The words are that of General Douglas MacArthur, the American Caesar. When World War II broke out, the nation turned to this leader when it appeared that Japanese were going to take over the entire Pacific, including Hawaii and maybe even the Islands of Alaska. MacArthur, having no troops, no military support, and literally no backing from his president, because the truth was that FDR was more worried about Europe than he was about the war in the Pacific. Although MacArthur was forced to fight much of the war with very little help, he did not publicly condemn Pres. Roosevelt for being more concerned with the European battlefront then he was the Pacific battlefront. Instead, MacArthur is today known mainly by his actions in the Korean conflict under Pres. Truman. If MacArthur disagreed with the strategy of Franklin Roosevelt, it didn’t really show. He didn't in any way think that Franklin Roosevelt was trying to lose the war as he did concerning the Truman policies in Korea. When the Korean conflict rolled around, McArthur was faced with a president who no longer was willing to fight a war, but what he called a “ police action.”
MacArthur was forced to accept rules of engagement that until now seemed almost stupid beyond belief. The following quote from the general sums it up best concerning the orders from Washington that he was expected to obey. " I asked for the bridges across the Yaloo to be bombed, my request was denied, I asked for permission to pursue the enemy into their sanctuaries, that request was denied. I requested that we be allowed to bomb the war supporting factories in China, that request was denied! Do you know what they told me? The told me that.."You may bomb the Southern half of the bridge only! In all military history, no commander has ever received such an imbecilic order! In all my years of military experiance I have never been taught how to bomb half a bridge! This isn't war, it's half war! It is an immoral compromise with evil! The longer we continue this half hearted struggle, the more men we'll lose!"
Those few words from Mac Arthur should ring in our ears today. Our soldiers fighting wars in the far distant lands such as Afghanistan and Iraq, have been given orders which are truly a compromise with evil--- as we continue fighting half wars! It is the evil leadership from Washington that has caused so many of our brave soldiers to die needlessly on battlefields of Korea, Vietnam, and now in the Middle East.
Now we have another general being relieved of command, by another president, who seems to be more worried about the welfare of our enemies than the welfare of our soldiers. Again, MacArthur was so right when he said these words about military leaders given their allegiance to political presidents, that care nothing for this country, but only for their own personal gain. "That is a dangerous concept, that men of the armed forces owe their primary duty to these temporary occupants of the White House insted of the Country and the Constitution we are sworn to defend!" (Mac Arthur).
I know most think that civilian control over our military, which is the constitutional function of the presidency should include that generals and military leaders must agree with political policies instead of military strategies. In my personal estimation, it is better for a general to stand up against these temporary occupants of the White House and not resign, but be fired. I would much rather be fired, then quit and leave my soldiers behind whose welfare and safety I was entrusted to protect. "One cannot wage war under present conditions without the support of public opinion, which is tremendously molded by the press and other forms of propaganda," MacArthur said after his firing, “But once war is forced upon us, there is no other alternative than to apply every available means to bring it to a swift end. War's very object is victory, not prolonged indecision. In war there can be no substitute for victory.”
He went on to say, “Men since the beginning of time have sought peace. …..The utter destructiveness of war now blocks out, this alternative. We have had our last chance. If we will not devise some greater and more equitable system, Armageddon will be at our door.”
My friends, Armageddon is at our door, and we better wake up and understand that the decisions being made now by this nation will have worldwide consequences upon all the nations of the world. MacArthur called this policy “appeasement,” and he said that appeasement begets more appeasement, and as in blackmail-- violence becomes the only answer. The violence that I am talking about is WWIII, a war, when it comes will annihilate up to half of this world's population, as well as bring about the great tribulation, the antichrist, and the return of Christ.
The problem basically is theological and involves a spiritual recrudescence and improvement of human character that will synchronize with our almost matchless advances in science, art, literature and all the material and cultural developments of the past 2000 years. It must be of the spirit if we are to save the flesh.... These are not my words, but General Mac Arthur's!
Here are a few more:
This does not mean that you are war mongers. On the contrary, the soldier, above all other people, prays for peace, for he must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war. But always in our minds ring the ominous words of Plato: "Only the dead have seen the end of war."
It is part of the general pattern of misguided policy that our country is now geared to an arms economy which was bred in an artificially induced psychosis of war hysteria and nurtured upon an incessant propaganda of fear. While such an economy may produce a sense of seeming prosperity for the moment, it rests on an illusionary foundation of complete unreliability and renders among our political leaders almost a greater fear of peace than is their fear of war.
Speech of 1951, as quoted in The Twenty-year Revolution from Roosevelt to Eisenhower (1954) by Chesly Manly, p. 3, and Total Insecurity : The Myth Of American Omnipotence (2004) by Carol Brightman, p. 182
Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear -- kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor -- with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it by furnishing the exorbitant funds demanded. Yet, in retrospect, these disasters seem never to have happened, seem never to have been quite real.